Bible Study: Rapture: Before, During OR After Great Tribulation?
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Updated: May 27, 2016.

This is extremely important!

Throw away everything you have been taught by traditional denominational, blind, ignorant preachers and READ THE BIBLE! I'm going to let YOU read it with your own eyes in the Bible! All verses are KJV unless otherwise noted. Words in green colored italics are me talking to you and expounding on these Scriptures.

2 Thessalonians 1:
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by (or about) the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by (or about) our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (This cannot be more clear, the Son of Perdition WILL be revealed BEFORE Christ comes!)
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? (Compare Matt.24:25)
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
(Most people wrongly interpret this to mean that the Church or the Holy Spirit will be taken away, or taken off the Earth. But we CANNOT AND SHOULD NOT assume that. It DOESN'T SAY IT. And we CANNOT prove it by any other verse. So to just assume it is to jump to a huge conclusion that cannot be supported by any other verse. Actually, instead of The Holy Spirit, this is talking about Michael, the archangel who is covering/protecting/guarding the Seat of GOD in the Temple of GOD in Heaven. Notice the context in verse 4 is that the Son of Perdition will sit in the Temple of GOD . But when this angel is taken away or allowed to be removed from guarding the seat, The Son of Perdition will then be allowed to momentarily sit in the Seat of GOD, in the Temple of GOD in Heaven, proclaiming himself as God, then he will be cast down to the Earth with Satan. We DO have supportive verses that speak of these events.)
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: (The coming of Christ will destroy the one they call antichrist!)
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
(The lie is that Jesus is returning in a pre-tribulation rapture & that Assad is God. Billions of people WILL believe that Assad is God when he appears in the Sky in a Fake rapture. See Proof)
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

More on Verse 7: The Greek word for KJV "letteth" in verse 7 is Strong's G2722 - katecho, which means to hold back, detain, retain, restrain. that which hinders the Antichrist from making his appearance. Who or What is restraining/holding back the son of perdition? WHO holds things back in the Bible? Rev. 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Daniel 10:13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.

In Daniel 10:13 an fallen angel is restraining or holding back the good angel who was sent to answer Daniel's prayer. Revelation 9:14-15: 14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. 15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. (Who was bounding the 4 angels in the river? The 6th angel was! GOD told the 6th angel to loose the other 4 angels.)

There is NO reason to believe that which restrains is the Holy Spirit or the body of Christ, the Church. The Bible interprets itself and according to the Bible, it is angels which loose and restrain, under GOD's orders. Therefore what we see happening in 2 Thes. 2 is that there is an angel who is guarding the Throne of GOD, a cherub. GOD commands the guardian cherub to walk away. He is removed from guarding the Throne. Thereby allowing Assad to momentarily sit in the Seat of GOD in the Temple of GOD in Heaven. This takes place during the war in Heaven in Rev.12. Then Assad and the devil and the other fallen angels are all cast out of Heaven and they fall to the Earth with great wrath and usher in the Great Tribulation of 3.5 years.

Daniel 12:1 (KJV) And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

The Syrian Aramaic word (what people call "Hebrew") that is translated as "stand up" which I have underlined above, is H5975 "Amad" which can have MANY meanings. The KJV translators have chosen to translate it as "stand up". But we cannot deny that the word "Amad" can be translated into many different words including "to stand still, stop (moving or doing), cease, leave, resist, restrain, let, desist, leave off". Source. In the Holy Greek Septuagint, the Greek word here is G450 "Anistemi" which can mean to "leave a place to go elsewhere, got up from" It is used in Matthew 9:9 "....And he arose, G450 and followed him" and Mark 7:24 "And from thence he arose, G450 and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon,.....", in which cases you see it is used of leaving a location. Source 1. Source 2.

Verses that detail what is going to happen in the future, as well as verses that determine doctrine, MUST coincide with ANOTHER VERSE in another chapter and/or book of the bible. We can NEVER take only one verse to determine something. We always need another verse to confirm what it really means.

To try to use 2 Thes. 2:7 as a way of teaching that The Church or the Holy Spirit is going to be removed from the Earth before the Great Tribulation, is totally unbiblical and CANNOT be confirmed by any verse. Yet Daniel 12:1 and 2 Thes. 2:1-7 is in full agreement with each other that the restraining angel, Michael, is covering/guarding the seat of GOD in the Temple of GOD in Heaven and just before the Tribulation, he will stand aside, cease to guard the Seat and allow the Son of Perdition to sit in the Seat of GOD, proclaiming himself as God. Daniel 12:1 should more correctly be translated "And at that time Michael the great prince shall step aside (depart, be taken out of the way)

, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time. In due time thy people will be delivered, every one that is written in the book".

The context of Daniel 12:1 is that Michael is removed from protecting The Saints from the Son of Perdition. It's the same context as 2 Thes.2:1-7. They are in agreement.

On 2 Thes. 2:7, The John MacArthur NASB Study Bible says "Taken Out of the way: This refers not to spatial removal, therefore it could NOT be the rapture of the church". Please remember that MacArthur DOES believe in and teaches the pre-trib rapture! Yet he confesses that there is NO way that this verse is referring to such! He continues "...but rather a stepping aside. The ideal is out of the way, not gone." He acknowledges that it is a stepping aside by something OTHER THAN the Holy Spirit, thereby allowing the Son of Perdition to sit in the Temple of GOD.

Now on to the next Scripture that people use to try to claim a pre-trib rapture:

1 Thessalonians 4: 15 "For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain (survive & remain from the Great Tribulation! Greek word 4035 means to pass thru, to make it thru, to survive!) unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. (shall NOT be caught up before those that are sleeping/dead)
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God (1 Cor. 15:52 says this trump is the LAST Trump): and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
(There is a Resurrection from the Dead associated with this event, just like in 1 Cor. 15 AND just like in Matt.24 where GOD gathers His People from one end to the other end. If this was to happen BEFORE the tribulation, People would notice opened graves and millions of people missing from their houses and jobs and families and thereby giving everyone on earth 7 more years to repent. That is foolish and dangerous teaching. This is obviously talking about THE 2nd Coming. There is NO 3rd Coming!)
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them (with the dead that was resurrected!) in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."
(This says we will Meet the Lord and that we will be forever with the Lord. This is Truly a taking away into Heaven BUT it is at the Last of the 7 Trumpets in Revelations. It does NOT say that we will be in Heaven forever. It does NOT say that. Read it again. We do meet Him in the air. Then 45 days later, on the 1335th day of Daniel, Christ and His Army, the saints, that is us, will land in Jerusalem (Zech. 14:4 "And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives...") And we will be forever with Him on Earth! (Revelation 5:10 "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.")

John 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

Rom 12:11-12 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

Revelation 12:1-17
1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: (This is Israel. See Joseph's vision in Gen. 37:9-10)
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon (the devil), having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven (the fallen angels), and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman (Israel/Mary) which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child (Christ) as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child (Christ), who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman (Mary and Joseph) fled into the wilderness , where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. (42 months. They indeed was in Egypt 3.5 years!)
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. (This is a Second War in Heaven at the start of the Great Tribulation of the last days.)
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Again in the end times. This is NOT the pre-Adam and Eve fall of Satan.)
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, (42 months of Great Tribulation) from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood (possibly a tsunami or rupture of dams and/or armies) after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. 16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. (This might be an earthquake rupture in the earth.)
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, (those left behind from the second exodus, NOT from a rapture) which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Let's read Matthew 24:1-31
1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows (birth pains. NO Rapture Yet!).
9 Then shall they deliver you (Christians) up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. (NO Rapture or Coming of the LORD Yet!)
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved (not those that leave before it's all over).
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, whoso readeth, let him understand.
(NOTICE JESUS SAID WHO-SO READ, LET HIM UNDERSTAND. HE WASN'T JUST TALKING ABOUT 70 A.D., HE WAS TALKING MORE TO THOSE WHO WOULD BE READING THIS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHICH HAD NOT BEEN WRITTEN YET! THIS IS SOLID PROOF MATTHEW 24 IS TO THE END TIME CHRISTIANS AND NOT ONLY TO THE PEOPLE ALIVE IN 70 A.D., The book of Matthew was written between 80-100 A.D. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/matthew.html)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains (not depart the earth and float into heaven)
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. (It will be too late to prepare.)
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight (the second exodus) be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: (4th Commandment)
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. (This shows the church here in the Great Tribulation!)
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. (Again this shows the church HERE in the Great Tribulation!!!)
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. (THIS SAYS NOT TO BELIEVE THAT HE HAS COME YET!!!)
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the VERY ELECT.
(Compare Rev.13:11 concerning the false prophet who works great miracles! Also, The VERY elect is STILL here! Some people try to say this is talking about Israel, the tribe of Judah. But this is talking about a people who are Spiritually mature enough to not be deceived. Israel is Already deceived! They don't even believe that Jesus already came and died on the Cross for our sins. So this verse is very clearly talking about the Body of Christ, the Very Elect, The Saints of GOD.)
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret (hidden) chambers; believe it not.
(HE has NOT Come Yet! Verse 27-28 describes how it WILL BE when HE does arrive in comparison to the claims of the rapture theory seen in vs. 26)
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(This does NOT say what most people say it says! It does NOT say that Christ will return as fast as a lightning strike! The thing about lightning is that you can see it before it arrives! You can even see the lightning before you hear the thunder! You can see the storm coming! It is very visible, not secret, not hidden. The storm travels across the sky, from one end under heaven to the other end under heaven. Christ will come from the East. You will SEE Him coming with Power, It won't be secret! This is the true meaning of this verse!)
28 For wheresoever the carcase (dead physical bodies) is, there will the eagles be gathered together. (Luke 17:37, Rev.19:17-18. Verse 29 tells you WHEN it will finally occur)
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: (6th Seal)
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
(Remember in verse 3, they asked Him what would be the sign of His Coming! Now He gives them the Sign! This Sign occurs after the 6th Seal, actually it will occur at the last trumpet which occurs in the 7th seal. It does NOT occur before verse 9, but that is what the rapture theory teaches!)
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. (7th Seal, 7th Trumpet, 7th vial of 3rd Woe)

1 Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: (at the LAST of the 7 trumpets of Revelations) for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

1 Thessalonians 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:"

Some people want to somehow believe that Matt.24's trumpet is a different trumpet from 1 Thes.4 and 1 Cor.15!!! It is so very very clear that this is the same trumpet!!! To believe otherwise is nothing but rebellion!

Matthew 24:32-51
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
(Who is taken, where do they go? The churches teach the righteous are taken up into heaven. But what does Jesus say?)
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief (Compare to Rev.16:15 This comparison is 100% Proof!) would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming (and go back to unrighteous life)
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Now notice Luke's version in Luke 17:22-37
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. (those that say He is in a hidden secret place)
24 For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.
25 But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation.
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
(They were prewarned, GOD allowed Noah to tell the people but they did not believe, but the people did have pre-warning about the event. It probably lightning! It probably started with light rain and then picked up into a great storm.)
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
(Again, the people were pre-warned. None of these things were done in secret nor hidden. It was to be expected and preparation time was allowed.)
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men (The word "men" is not in the original writings in this verse, it is NOT talking about males, but rather people) in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
37 "And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together."

Revelation 19:17 "And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;" 18 "That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great."

It is very very clear and certain that the wicked are the ones who are taken away and they are taken away by birds and eaten!!! You do NOT want to be taken away.

Who gets taken away in Luke 17:34-37 and Matt. 24:39-44? It is clear that it is the wicked tares.

Who rises in the FIRST Resurrection? Revelation 20:4-5 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

This is the FIRST Resurrection. There are NO Resurrections of millions of people before this event! Who raises in this resurrection? The Saints! The ones that died for Jesus by Not taking the mark of the beast! They lived during the tribulation right here on earth and died for their stand for Christ!


Myths

Myth #1 The Bible never mentions the church on Earth during the Great Tribulation.

Fact: The Bible DOES! See Proof below:

5 Groups of Christians In The Great Tribulation:
Group #1: The Saints That Die During the Great Tribulation for Their Witness/Testimony For Jesus.

Rev.6:9-11 Rev.12:7-17 Rev.13:7-10 Rev.14:9-13 Rev.20:1-6 Daniel 7:21 Daniel 11:29-12:1

Group #2: The Saints That Will Be Thrown into the Fiery Furnace of Great Tribulation But Survive.

Matthew 10:16-42 and 1 Thes.4:13-18 Notice the word “remain” in verse 15 which means to survive or to make it through. Notice the words “alive and remain” in verse 17. Also 2 Thes.1:1-8 and 1 Peter 1:3-9 Rev.3:14-22 The Laodicean Church is the end time church time era. Rev.7:1-16

Group #3: The Saints Hidden on Earth & Protected by Jesus in Goshen Cities of Refuge/Safety, The Wilderness.

Rev.12:13-16 Exodus 19:4 Isa.26:20-21 In Luke 21:34-36 we are told to pray that we may escape these things that are about to come upon the Earth. There are 2 ways of escape. One being The End Time Great Exodus into the Wilderness. The other being death before the Great Tribulation. Isa.57:1-2

Group #4: The Weak, Immature Christians Who Will Die Because of their Compromise with Paganism, False Doctrines & their Personal Sins.

Ezekiel 9:1-11 and 1 Peter 4:12-19 Hebrews 10:26

Group #5: FALSE Christians who think they are Saved but are NOT.

Matthew 7:21-27 Matt.15:6-9 Rev.2:9 Rev.3:9 The ones who say they are Jews but are not, but are of the “Synagogue of Satan” has nothing to do with bloodline. These are false Christians. The Bible interprets itself and says that a true Jew is one inwardly, circumcised of the heart. Everyone who is a True Christian and has the Holy Spirit and is truly Saved, is a Spiritual Jew, A spiritual Israelite. Those that say they are Jew/Saved but are NOT, are false Christians. Romans 2:28-29 Romans 9:6-15 The fact that we are spiritual Jews has NOTHING to do with the antichrist religion of Judaism. We do NOT partake in Judaism which is a form of Islam. Hebrew Roots and Judaism are forms of Islam. See http://www.isawthelightministries.com/judaism.html


Myth #2 Everything has been fulfilled. There is nothing left to be fulfilled. Therefore He can come back tonight.

Fact There are lots of things that have NOT yet been fulfilled as of the time of this article and this update August 2011. The antichrist has NOT yet been revealed. The antichrist has not yet overcome the Saints. The Holy City Jerusalem is not yet under foot of the Gentiles. And so on. There is still yet many prophecies to be fulfilled before the Coming of the LORD!

Seems pretty clear doesn't it? Yes, it does! VERY CLEAR!!! When you get rid of what man has taught you and go to the Word of God, it gets clear. Praise God!

Acts 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.


Objection: Revelation chapters 2 and 3 shows that Jesus said that we will not have to go through the Tribulation.

Answer Rev.2-3 is very clearly 7 letters sent to the 7 congregations which were in 7 different cities in what is now modern day Turkey. Notice that it gives you the exact name of each town. Is the name of your town listed? Is the USA listed? The context of these two chapters is Jesus speaking to a specific group of people who lived over 2,000 years ago. Were you alive 2,000 years ago? Did you live in those towns?

It is also true that these 7 churches symbolically represent 7 Church time eras from the time of Jesus' birth to the end time. In that sense, only the final church, the Laodicea church represents the end time. The letter to the Church of Laodicea does NOT promise that they will be caught up BEFORE the Great Tribulation, neither does ANY of the 7 letters promise that!

When we look at scriptures that ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT QUESTION, DIRECTLY apply to the end times, we see that the Scripture says that Saints in the end times, in all nations will be hated, persecuted, arrested and martyred. Daniel 12:7 and Rev.13:7 both apply directly to the end time Saints in all nations.


Objection Then why was Rev.2-3 written if all 7 letters are not speaking to the end time Saints?

Answer I can ask the same question about other parts of the Bible. Why was 1 Kings, 2 Kings, 1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles & Deuteronomy written??? These Bible passages were written but very clearly they applied to people thousands of years ago. They are a written record of history for our edification. After we get pass Rev.3, we see Jesus describing things for the end times. But Rev.2-3 were written primarily, specifically concerning the first century A.D. Even then, Jesus does not promise every member of those congregations that they would be protected and neither does HE promise ANY of them that they will be caught up into Heaven before their trial and tribulation occurs.

The Old Testament prophets and New Testament disciples and apostles AND JESUS were all hated, persecuted, arrested and martyred. Modern day "Christians" now in the middle east in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Russia, China and many other places across the world are hated, persecuted, arrested and martyred. Why is the pre-tribulation rapture for them? Why do American "Christians" claim that Jesus would never make us "go through all of that" when Christians around the world are ALREADY going persecution, arrest and martyrdom? The mindset of American "Christians" is one of "we don't have to suffer", "we don't have to face what the Bible says is going to happen". Yet millions of Christian believers in many nations are already suffering and going through what is listed in the Bible to occur in the end times. The American believer is seeing things in rose colored glasses in a limited view of the world, not looking beyond the borders of the USA. But the rest of the "church" worldwide is looking death in the face and facing the test of whether they will submit to Islam or not, will they deny Jesus Name or not, will they stand with Jesus to the death? What makes Americans so naive and arrogant to think that they will not also face the same tests?

John 15:18-20 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. 19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. 20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

Why does it make a difference?

Some people and ministers say it really doesn't matter and that we shouldn't split hairs over WHEN Christ is going to do something. Well, it DOES matter because one teaching is truth and the other teaching is false, therefore deception therefore a lie from the devil. We should never teach any deception. The rapture theory people use one or two verses, having itching ears, scratching the same single verses over and over again. They have their Hope in going away into Heaven instead of having their Hope in Jesus himself who is able to protect us right here on earth! God did not rapture Noah and his family away into Heaven at the end of that first age. He never takes us out of the storm but rather He carries us THROUGH. We still have work to do!

UPDATE: MAY 27, 2016: RED ALERT! ANTICHRIST TO BE SEEN IN HEAVEN, DESCEND FROM THE SKY

Matthew 24:15 "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in THE HOLY PLACE, whoso readeth, let him understand".

Jesus was not referring to those alive in 70 A.D. As they would not be reading the book of Matthew. He was referring to us reading today. "Stand" should be translated as "standing" as it is in most translations. We will SEE the Son of Perdition (the person that Christians traditionally call "the antichrist") standing (& sitting 2 Thes.2) in THE Holy Place.

Most people assume this is in a temple that is rebuilt on Earth but there is no scripture declaring a rebuilding of the temple. I had assumed the "holy place" was the Temple Mount. But the Jews that were listening to Jesus speak those words, would have understood "The Holy Place" as being inside the Temple. It can also be translated "The Most Holy Place". It's referring to The Temple of GOD in Heaven. NOT on the Temple Mount.

2 Thes. 2:1-12
1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; ("revealed" is Greek 601 - apokalypto: "to uncover, lay open what has been veiled or covered up, disclose, make bare, to make known, make MANIFEST, disclose what before was unknown". Antiochus Epiphanes had coins made with images of himself and the words "Theos Epiphanes" which means "GOD SEEN" or "GOD MANIFEST". To see PROOF in the Bible that Bashar Assad, the president of Syria, is the same fallen angel as Antiochus Epiphanes, & that the Temple will never be built on Earth because it is in Heaven please click here. To see PROOF in the Bible that Assad is the Antichrist, please click here)
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
("shewing" in KJV & "displaying" in NASB is G584 - apodeiknymi : "show forth, to expose to view, exhibit, to show, to prove what kind of person anyone is, to prove by arguments, demonstrate". He could stand on the Temple Mount claiming to be God but that would not be very effective. But by showing/displaying himself in the sky, in the Seat of GOD in The Temple of GOD in Heaven, that WOULD be VERY effective.)
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
(Daniel 12:1 Michael the archangel is currently [in May 2016] standing guard over the church as well as The Throne of GOD in Heaven. But he will be told by GOD to step aside to allow Assad to take the Seat of GOD in the Temple of GOD in Heaven. At that time, the 5th Seal will be opened & the martyrdom of the true church will begin in full force. Rev.12)
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(Assad's coming from the sky is a false (lying) sign compared to Matt.24:30 and the 6th seal & true sign of Jesus' true coming. Assad comes from the sky with power. That's much more than just standing on the Temple Mount & also much more than siting in a temple on Earth. Rev.12:3 says that Assad's war in Heaven will be a sign that will appear in Heaven.)
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
("Strong delusion" in the Greek is "plane energeia" which means a "deception by strong power". The "Strong Delusion" is that some people will actually be able to see Assad in Heaven during the middle eastern war between NATO/USA & Assad. It will APPEAR as if this war is the Battle of Armageddon & the Coming of Christ. But it's actually the war of Rev.12 where Satan & his angels including Assad wage war in Heaven & then are thrown back down onto the Earth & the Great Tribulation begins. The American churches of men have been teaching people to expect Jesus to split the eastern sky at any moment BEFORE the Great Tribulation. But that is going to be the Antichrist that does that before the Great Tribulation as 2 Thes.2 is EXTREMELY CLEAR that he will appear in the Temple of GOD (in Heaven) FIRST, before the actual coming of Jesus.)
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness".
(It's my personal experience that the greatest majority of people are very gullible to all forms of deception, while at the same time, refuse to accept any or much truth. The people are COVERED in wickedness. Jesus is going to turn the people over to the wickedness that they have embraced.)

The context of 2 Thes.2:1-12 is the same as Matthew 24:1-31, the coming of false Christ's & false prophets before Jesus actually comes. Compare 2 Thes.2:3 "apostasy comes first" with Matt. 24:10 "many will fall away". Compare 2 Thes.2:3 "lawlessness" with Matt.24:12 "lawlessness".

Notice the "false prophets" in Matt.24:11 & the false prophet of Rev.13 that will stand beside Assad. Notice that Matt.24:5-24 is warning against the coming of false Christ's & that we should not believe any strong deception. In Matt.24:24 Jesus warned us that There WILL BE GREAT SIGNS & WONDERS. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect"

Jesus warned us that no matter how strong the delusion, to not believe that the Son of Perdition is the real God, because Jesus will NOT come until after all these things are fulfilled.

When Daniel wrote about the abomination of desolation in the Holy Place in Dan.8:13, he was referring to an actual Temple. 2 Thes.2:7 is also referring to an actual Temple. But in the case of the end time abomination of desolation, it's not a earthly temple. It's The Temple in Heaven.

When the Temple stood on Earth, no man could enter the Holy of Holies behind the veil except only the high priest & even he could only enter once per year, on the Day of Atonement. Even then, he did so with fear & reverence. He could possibly die if not clean, reverent & obedient. In the time of the Maccabees, Antiochus entered the Holy of Holies, behind the veil in the Temple, without being killed by the presence of God! Because God allowed it to happen. God stepped out of the Temple to allow Antiochus to seize & defile the Temple. Assad, the same fallen angel as Epiphanes, will enter the Holy Place Matt.24:15 Each & every time that the temple was destroyed, God allowed it.

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

History shows that Antiochus Epiphanes was forced by Rome to abandon his attempts at conquering Egypt & Rome. In his wrath against Rome & Egypt, he went against Jerusalem & committed the Abomination of Desolation of the Holy of Holies in the Temple. Antiochus has come back in the form of Assad & he will execute his revenge against Rome & Egypt & finish the job.

Rev.17:16-18 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire. 17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. 18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Pope Benedict & Pope Francis are both fallen angels, as well as Assad. Jesus has put it in their mind to destroy Rome & the Catholic Church & replace her with Islam. The Islamic state of Syria admits their goal of destroying Rome. ISIS will come totally under Assad's control after Al-Baghadi is killed by Russia/Assad.

These & other scriptures are clear that Assad will be seen in the sky, in Heaven, during the Abomination of Desolation. We need to prepare people for the GREAT signs in the heavens & tell the people to not fall for the great deception!

The Pre-Tribulation rapture doctrine is extremely dangerous!!!! It is a MAJOR reason why so many people have fallen for many false dates of the rapture over the centuries. Plus, It will be the reason why many people will be so easily deceived that Assad is God when he is seen in Heaven & descends from the sky.

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