Unconditional Election Refuted

Predestination, The Elect, Chosen

Are there some people who can't get saved no matter how much they seek God? Did God create the majority of mankind as worthless trash? Does God hate the majority of his creation? Does God love only some people?
Many people believe that God pre-programmed the majority of the world to disobey Him and then will punish them for doing exactly what they were programmed to do! Many of the same people also believe that God doesn't change people! They don't believe in being "born again"! They even refuse to call it "being born again" and instead call it "regeneration". They actually change the name so that it's not as clear to some people what they teach. But they actually teach that you don't have to be born again and can't be born again and that God doesn't change people upon repentance, because everyone is programmed like a robot to either obey God or to disobey God, yet by obeying God in their own disobedience, they are obeying God to disobey Him!

Refuting Unconditional Election

"Unconditional Election" is the belief that before the beginning of the world, God chose who can and who cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
It is a false doctrine of Calvinism. It denies "Free Will". It denies that we have anything to do with our salvation.

People actually in The Tree of Life, but fall away against God's will.

John 15:1-8

1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

This is a warning that you can actually get saved and yet then lose your salvation. If God planned and chose who would get saved and who wouldn't be saved, and we had no choice in it, no free will, then John 15 wouldn't be needed. John 15 and most of the bible would not be needed. Warnings would not be needed. Evangelism would not be needed. The bible would not be needed. Growing in truth would not be needed. The cross of Jesus would not be needed. Nothing would be needed because we would be mindless, programmed robots that could do nothing to attain, or reject, salvation.

John 15:16 Used to try to prove unconditional election:

"Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you."
-This only refers to God having created us. Not we created Him. So of course God chose us first. He loved us first.
The context of the chapter, of saved people falling away from The Tree of Life proves that this verse absolutely cannot mean that we have unconditional election without free will. You can't just read one verse. Read the entire chapter! John 15 warns us to not fall away, but to abide/stay in God's church/body.

Heb. 10:26-34 shows the same principal of John 15. Why warn of being saved and then losing salvation, if we can't do anything to attain it or reject it?

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32 But call to remembrance the former days, in which, after ye were illuminated, ye endured a great fight of afflictions;
33 Partly, whilst ye were made a gazingstock both by reproaches and afflictions; and partly, whilst ye became companions of them that were so used.
34 For ye had compassion of me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.

Not willing for anyone to perish, but for all to come to everlasting life!

2 Peter 3:8-9

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
This verse totally proves that the doctrine that says that "there's no free will" is a lie! People who believe in unconditional election totally ignore this verse!
If He wants everyone to get saved, then He never planned or wanted anyone to die in The Lake of Fire!
Why would the loving God plan on aborting his babies! Why would He create it just only to destroy it on purpose?!

The reason that verse 8 says that a thousand years is as one day to the Lord is that God isn't limited to any time dimension! Before He created the Earth, He foresaw the end, including your choices. But even though He saw what choices that you would eventually make, He still reached out to you many times trying to save you. The bible (Isa. 65:2 Romans 10:21) says that his arm is stretched out all day long to a rebellious people! Why would He reach out to rebellious people if they could not do anything to change their fate?

1 Tim. 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

1 Tim. 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

God wants everyone to be saved & know truth!

God is not a respecter of persons, when it comes to salvation!

Acts 10:34-35 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Work out our salvation with fear and trembling.

Philippians 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

All are invited:

Matt. 22:1-14

1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

Everyone invited to the marriage supper. Not just the chosen. Everyone called. Many called. The few chosen are those who pass all of the tests and achieve success of being complete in Christ. The Elect are those who God foresaw achieving that success. God didn't pick who would be the only ones who would inherit the Kingdom. But rather only foresaw who would and wrote down their names.
He also chose who would enter within the 1st Resurrection, and who would be in the 2nd resurrection.

Freedom to choose either path:

Deut. 30:15-20

15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
:17 people turn away.
The many scriptures that prove that "Once Saved, Always Saved" is a false doctrine, also prove that there is "Free Will": That it is up to us to decide whether we accept eternal life via the truth, or to reject the truth that gives eternal life.
:19 Choose life or death.

Choose who you will serve.

Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

If we didn't have a choice, we would be mindless robots and we wouldn't be worthy of our calling.

Blot out (erase) their names from The Book of Life.

Psalm 69:28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

Exodus 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

Their names were written there. But could be erased!
So God did not put it into concrete/cement who would be saved & who wouldn't be.
It's up to all of us to choose life or death! Why would their names be written and then erased if we don't have free will and don't have any involvement or choices in our salvation?

Verses used by those who believe in Unconditional Election:

Isaiah 42:1: "Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect Chosen One..."
-This refers primarily to Jesus as the offspring of Jacob/Israel. Verse 8 helps identify Jacob/Israel in verses 1-2 as being Jesus. The description is also very clear that it is talking about Jesus and not the real Jacob. "Jacob" in this verse is just a symbolic name for Christ, as the son of man.
Even if referring to Jacob, we still must understand what it means to be "elect" and "chosen". We can't assume that it means to not have any free will.
-Verse 8 says that Jesus is not a separate/different being/person or God head. He's God in the flesh, not a separate distinct God head.

John 1:12,13: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

-Two words with these verses, "received" and "believe" show our involvement in salvation. He calls everyone. But we choose to receive Him and we choose to believe. The bible is full of verses calling for people to receive and believe, which shows that we must choose to believe and receive. Even "repent and be baptized". We can choose to not believe and not receive. That's very clear in scripture.

-This verse prepares the reader for chapter 3 where it says that we must be born again. When we are born again, spiritually, it's not by the blood and will of our parents. But of God. But our own involvement is shown in the words "received" and "believe". Therefore, it's unreasonable to try to claim that "nor by the will of man" refers to no choice of ours, since we are involved in accepting and believing.

Acts 13:48: "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained/appointed to eternal life believed."
-Again, we could believe or not believe. These people chose to believe. It shows our involvement in our salvation. The "unconditional election" people focus only upon the word "ordained" while ignoring the obvious involvement of the believer!
We can't allow this verse to overrule all other verses that declare the requirements of repentance, belief, acceptance, growth in maturity, grown in truth, obedience and the requirement to produce good fruit. We must take this one verse into context with the entire bible. Even as we can't allow John 3:16 to dominate over all other bible verses but rather to take John 3:16 in the context of the entire bible, weighing each verse with many verses.

Romans 9:15-16: "For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that wills, nor of him that runs, but of God that shows mercy."

Romans 9:22-24: "What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to (prepared for) destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?"
-Fitted to, or prepared for, isn't the same as created for destruction. No one was created for destruction, as 2 Peter 3:8-9 tells us that God is not willing for anyone to perish. So Romans 9:22-24 cannot contradict 2 Peter 3:8-9. When the bible is understood correctly, it doesn't contradict.
We have many verses that prove that we can accept or reject or throw away or lose salvation. Therefore, "fitted to" or "prepared for" refers to God adapting to our choices and giving people what they choose. If a person goes to jail or gets admitted to a hospital room, the staff at the facility will prepare to receive that person in that room. God saw the end from the beginning and made arrangements in advance.
If we choose to believe that these verses means that God created some people for destruction and some people for eternal life, and we have no choice or free will in the matter, then we must totally ignore 2 Peter 3:8-9, 2 Peter 2:22, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, John 3:16 and a million other bible verses. Instead of ignoring scriptures, we need to understand them better, and balance all scripture together to where they do not contradict. Romans 9 just only says that God in judge and will punish those who deserve punishment and will reward the people who deserve reward. Paul said that we must hold tight to our crown and allow no one to steal our crown. Yet no one could steal our crown if no person has any involvement in anyone's salvation.

Ephesians 1:4-5: "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,"
:11 "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who work all things after the counsel of his own will:"
-Predestinated would be better translated as "pre-surveyed" or "pre-seen" or "seen beforehand", which means that God saw the end from the beginning, saw our hearts/minds and our choices. Therefore He had already chosen us in the beginning because He saw the end result. It's like if a sports team leader has already seen what a person can do before being chosen for the team. If a baseball agent knows of a good baseball player and sees how good of a player that he is, and then chooses him. But God saw from the beginning, before it happened! God exists in all time dimensions, both past and present, from beginning to end, He is ever present in every generation and He is not limited by time and space.
"The Elect" and "The Chosen" are all humans, of all generations, who God already saw (before Adam & Eve were created) passing all of the tests and accepting Him and achieving full maturity and full completeness of salvation.

Acts 17:26 says "And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation".
-He planned ahead of time where we would be born, who our parents would be, who we would meet, etc. But He did not set into concrete what we would choose. He gave every person and every creature free will to choose his way or the wrong way & life or death.
-For example, Judas who betrayed Jesus. Jesus saw before the foundation of the world that Judas would on his own accord choose to have the lust of money and a heart of betrayal. Therefore Jesus ordained that Judas would be the one who betrayed Him. Jesus put Judas in the right time and place for it to occur. But Judas made his own decision to betray Jesus. He did not have to do it.
-God places us in times & places to present to us choices that we must make. We make those choices. We can accept His gentle voice of the best path and good rivers, Isa. 8:6-7. Or we can choose the strong, harsh raging floods of war, destruction, Islam, homosexuality, pre-trib rapture lie, witchcraft, unbelief, etc.
Whatever we choose, He will try to lead us away from the danger at first. But after we have proven ourselves self-determined to disobey Him and to follow our own path, He eventually turns us over to what we have freely chosen and let's us have what we want and all of the deadly consequences that come with our bad choices.
And that's the state of the world today. God didn't bring about all of the death and destruction and misery on this Earth. We did. Mankind brought it all about via our pride, vanity and rejection of His righteous leadership.

2 Thessalonians 2:13: "But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:"
-Verse shows our involvement in accepting Him. Sanctification is a very long and difficult process that requires our cooperation!

2 Timothy 1:9: "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,"
-"Works" and belief/acceptance are not the same thing. We earn rewards through works. We don't earn salvation through works. We can do many things, pay tithes, keep the Sabbaths, and still not be saved. So those things don't save us. Only The Blood of Jesus and The Holy Ghost saves us. And that is through His Grace. That's what this verse is saying. As Isaiah 1 tells us, that even those who sacrifice animals and keep the Sabbaths don't have a guarantee that they will have eternal life, because He also sees our hearts and minds. He knows whether or not that we have love for people. He knows whether or not we trust Him and love Him. He knows whether or not we oppress the poor and needy. He knows if we have a problem with pride. So we can do many good works and still not be saved. He calls everyone at some point in history. But not everyone will be chosen because some will never press their spiritual garments. Their hearts will always be hard and wicked by their own choice.
No one will suffer and perish in The Lake of Fire except for those people who deserve it! Not just because they were born! Not just because God never loved them! Not because God created them as trash!
The "unconditional election" doctrine declares that God created some people as trash who are not loved by God and can never attain salvation no matter what they do! It's a doctrine of Satan!
The bible is extremely clear that all mankind have opportunity for salvation! We are all loved by God and are His creation!
Does He not beg for all mankind everywhere to repent?!

John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day."

They ignore the following verse just a few chapters later: John 12:32 "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."

God draws all mankind to Himself!
God created everyone. God loves everyone!
To say that He only wants you saved, but not everyone, is a very prideful, wicked and foolish way of thinking!!!

More Verses that Prove Predesignated Damnation or Salvation Wrong

John 3:3-7

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be (become) born again.

2 Cor. 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

Notice that the bible teaches us that God can, and does, transform/change us. I've seen people change. I changed. We must all change. We do not stay the same as we were born, or the same as we were raised, or the same as we were as rebellious kids. God changes our lives when we come to Him. This is the fact of life. It's biblical. Anyone who does not believe in "regeneration", the action of God changing us and renewing us, and denies the requirement of being born again, they are extremely ignorant of the main theme of the bible, which is God calling lost people to Himself. Jesus died to call lost people, sinners, to Himself. He came as the Kinsman Redeemer to redeem lost souls. Why even die for our sins on the cross, if it was already preprogrammed into every human whether or not we are saved? In that case, predestination would be our reason and cause of salvation and not the death and blood of Christ! Unconditional predestinated salvation or damnation denies the redemptive power of the blood of Jesus.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

"Shall be saved." Not already saved before the beginning of the world. If we were already saved before we were born, why get saved? Why must we be baptized and born again?

Notice that this verse is very clear that our salvation is based upon what we do, whether or not that we are baptized and whether or not we believe. Believe and being preprogrammed are 2 different things. Unconditional election teaches that God preprogrammed us, rather than personal belief. Consider also in Hebrews 3-4, the warning that if we do not believe, trust and obey Jesus, then we will die as the Israelites in the wilderness also did for their unbelief. Why warn us about this possibility of dying, if we are already programmed as robots with no choice?

Colossians 3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.

Very clear! God loves all people. Salvation is available to all.

John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

(Why is the Father seeking people to worship Him, if He has already pre-elected them?)

Luke 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

But in the belief of unconditional election, the righteous are always righteous from before birth and don't have to be washed clean or change or born again or regenerated.

Luke 15 and the Prodigal Son

The lesson of the prodigal son is that if someone departs from the heavenly Father, he can repent and return. There's nothing in the parable to indicate that he could have stayed saved if he didn't repent. Nor does the parable indicate that the son has no choice but to repent.

In the End Times

1 Timothy 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

Rev. 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

Very clearly, the bride makes herself ready. God had a part in it. But she did also.

Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Notice that this verse makes it very clear that eternal life is conditional.

Two Different Concepts

The word "predestination" is often used for two different concepts:
1) That God knows our choices beforehand and puts us in situations fitting for what we will choose (e.g. Judas, Pharaoh). This is correct. Predestination would be better translated and understood as "pre-surveyed" or "seen beforehand" as translated in The Alpha & Omega Bible (AOB).
2) That God already chose our eternal outcome and that we can't change it. This is the false concept discussed in this article. It is also called Unconditional Election.

Who Believes That Crap?

Many people who believe that the earth is flat, also believe in Planet X and also in unconditional damnation or unconditional salvation. You can very clearly see that wisdom is not found in such people.

Lutherans believe in single predestination/election: Some people are predestined/elected to go to heaven and can't change that no matter what. This is a prideful and false doctrine. The bible is very clear that you can lose salvation.

Calvinists believe in double predestination/election, which takes it one step further: Some people are elected to go to hell to be tortured forever! This is an insane and blasphemous doctrine which makes God out to be evil and denies His power to save the repentant.

Denominations that believe in double predestination / unconditional election:

Churches that believe in single predestination (some are predestined to heaven, while all others have to choose salvation.):

Full audio for the 2021 sermon on this topic:
https://soundcloud.com/isawthelightministries/jan-23-2021-unconditional-election-refuted

Previous teachings on this subject:

Sermon: 2016-09-03 Predestined To Salvation Or Hell
3 hours, 6 minutes.
https://www.talkshoe.com/episode/4566739

Sermon: 2016-08-27 God Turns People Over To Chosen Sins: Free Will
2 hours, 9 minutes.
https://www.talkshoe.com/episode/4566737

http://proveallthings.weebly.com/commentaryblog/august-28-2016-newsletter

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